Todd A. Clevenger, M.D.

He was very nice and helpful!

Very Friendly and very professional. Liked his down to earth style.

Great people skills, caring and compassionate. My knee replacement provided wonderful results.

Great, caring Doc.

Good empathy from him and he listens. Also always right on time.

Great bedside manner

Nice smile! Wish I saw it more during my visits with him.

very talented physician. Knee replacement is absolutely perfect.

Very approachable and professional. Feel good about having him as my surgeon.

He answered questions in polite and reasonable fashion.

Very friendly and knowledgeable physician.

Nice and solid. Efficient.

I met with Dr. Clevenger to get my MRI results. It was my first time meeting him. My first impression of him was that he is kind, considerate and 100% present. He sat down and engaged me in conversation about my options to relieve my shoulder pain. I felt confident after our discussion to proceed with surgery. At this time, I am waiting for Medicare approval and then schedule the surgery. I’ll update my feedback after completion of my treatment.

Todd is a ROCKSTAR and I trust he will do an awesome job on my knees as he did on my hip!!!! Look forward to being able to walk without two worn out knees.

Super professional and thorough.

Terrific doctor! The scar on my knee is minimal thanks to his excellent work!

5 stars. Very kind and knowledgeable doctor. Even though my shots to the knees are extremely painful, he shows compassion. I won’t go to anyone else.

Excellent care. Good listening ability. Not hurried.

Doc.Clevinger is a very kind professional!! He will answer your questions and concerns honestly and with concern ! Just have your questions written down so you get them answered. He is a very busy Doc.

I was in and out in 5min, he took no time with me, very cold and rushed

Very nice and caring.

Excellent surgeon and phenomenal doctor

I needed to see a picture of my left knee and hear a medical diagnosis. Dr. Clevenger provided the answers.

Awesome. Very thorough and took the time to answer all my questions. Completely alleviated concerns I received after getting a rushed 1st opinion from another office. Thanks Todd.

Great bedside Manor! He listens to his patient and helps try to solve the problem. And my knee is great

He was prompt, personable, and knowledgeable.

Very happy with his care

Efficient, great clinical care personable

He was so excellent! Listened and addressed all our concerns. Took the time to explain in detail past MRI ands present X-RAYS. thorough exam and gave us options for treatments, highly recommend Dr Clevenger!

Fantastic ! Personable ! Knowledgeable !

Surgery was well done and so far results are still painful but not unexpected. His manner is slightly arrogant and not too willing to go into detail explanations. Typical surgeon I suppose.

Clevenger is just a great surgeon! He will be your biggest fan in the success of your healing!

Great visit,

The staff is very friendly and he is very compassionate and understanding of what you need. He knows what needs to be done and he schedules it. It’s awesome..

Dr. Clevenger is kind and willing to answer all of my questions. He’s an excellent surgeon too. He deeply cares about the well being of his patients.

Awesome Doctor!

Dr Clevenger is wonderful. I had a knee replacement on my left leg last June. Very, very successful! Now it’s time for my right knee. He explained everything I need to expect since there are other issues. Very happy!

Great doc. I would recommend.

Dr Clevenger is very professional and takes time to listen and answer questions. He exudes expertise and I feel very secure and comfortable u der hiscare

Thorough. Attention to detail. Thanks!

Very compassionate.

Helpful to answer all my questions. I like to know all about my surgery. It's a marvelous thing!! To be able to help people get well and improve their lifestyle is a blessing. Many of us are praying for help...and Dr. Clevenger is an answer to prayers. And he needs to know that. Thank you, Dr. Clevenger.

Awesome doctor. He listens, gives you answers in layman’s terms and acts like he really cares about you and your needs.

This man knows the kneeds of his patients with good character and solid performance from his entire staff.

Dr. Clevenger has assisted my daughter with two injuries, ankle and knee. He is supportive, thorough and considerate with all interactions and appointments. I'm assured that my daughter is getting his undivided attention and years of experience with his care.

Very professional and efficient. He was all business and listened to my concerns and need for additional pain relief!

Brilliant , caring provider!

Great care

I would not let any, and I do mean any, one other than Dr. "Todd" Clevenger repair either my hip or knee!!!!!! Replaced my right hip and I still have 20 years on the warranty??!! :-)

Dr. Clevenger listens and explains things carefully. He spends enough time with you and strives to address your needs. Personable and kind but not too informal.

Such an excellent surgeon. He improved my life by restoring my mobility and relieving my pain.

I am awaiting a surgery date.

Dr. Clevenger was direct and to the point, gave me the option of waiting or not. I appreciated that comment.

The three appointments over time have been of the highest quality possible. His professional manner, including the explanations of medical details is very comfortable.

One of the Best Doctors I have had would highly recommend to any one great bedside manner truly cares for his patients

Excellent, professional, friendly.

Kind, professional and so far the knee is great!

Dr Clevenger and his staff are amazing!!

He was thorough and diagnosed my knee issue right away. Gave me a cortisone shot that took care of the issue. I would highly recommend him.

VERY GOOD

Discussed options for knee pain . Took the time to answers questions patiently and professionally.

Always professional

Very nice man. Willing to answer any questions you have. Tells it like it is. Doesn’t sugar coat it.

Todd is a brilliant Surgeon and at the same time makes you feel like you are his best friend. A super rare combination. Professional in every way as well as personal and unafraid to be real. Can't recommend him any higher - if I could, I would.

Great doc, good listener, very knowledgeable and experienced. Easy going and personable. I feel very at ease speaking to him te: my health issues.

My experience with Dr. Clevenger was highly positive. He clearly explained my problem and what I/we need to do moving forward with my treatment.

Although running behind in his appointments he spent more than enough time explaining my condition, and possible future treatments if required. I didn’t feel that I was being rushed through the office.

Very concerned about my needs and helpful.

Great Staff very professional appts are on time. Answers questions and makes you feel comfortable

The doctor was great! Im glad I have him as my go to guy!

Plan to see him again for other knee issues.

Always professional, but personal too.

Knee is doing great, sch surgery quickly, no wait for app.

Very professional, knowledgeable, explained information in a clear, understandable way. Plus he was friendly and has a sense of humor (very important!)

Compassionate and caring man. And an excellent surgeon!

very professional

I'm thoroughly impressed with the SO Orthopedics quality of care and business model. I have had very positive experiences in all aspects of dealing with 3 different injuries and doctors and staff. Thank you!

Two knee surgeries later, I am very pleased with the outcome. Good attention in follow ups and can't recommend Dr. Clevinger highly enough.

Excellent!!

Great doctor, very personable, down to earth personality and great manners!

Kind and efficient.

Carefully listened and explained. Answered all my questions. I highly recommend Dr. Clevenger.

Great Doctor! Really knows his stuff.

Dr. Clevenger has always been very respectful of my elderly parent which I appreciate. Dr. Clevenger faces my dad when he talks to him which makes it easier for him to engage with the doctor. He is very kind and did a great job with my dad's issues.

I had a very pleasant visit with Dr. Clevenger !!!

I’d like a little more personal conversation and interaction with the Dr

Very professional and gave an immediate diagnosis

Listened and answered all of my questions and concerns.

Very pleased,a caring person

Great diagnosis for me thought it was much worse no waiting in and out In less then a half hour.

Dr. Clevenger performed a total arthroplasty on my right hip back in June 2020; I couldn't be happier with the results! I was diagnosed with bilateral hip dysplasia, which caused osteoarthritis that plagued me since at least high school. Now in my thirties, the pain had become so severe that it interfered with my ability to work and do many of the activities I once enjoyed. This surgery has given me a new lease on life that would not have been possible if not for the amazing work of Dr. Clevenger and his team. I've opted to have him replace my other hip in the near future.

Thorough and to the point

Known Todd since young kids and he's performed two surgeries on me and my mother and I couldn't be happier each time. Great person and excellent doctor!

Very patient, professional n gives you a chance to give feedback. ??

He cares for my sons recovery and future as if he was his own. Very Professional and did an outstanding job on his surgery!

He is pleasant, he doesn't offer much in information, I feel I need to know what I don't know, so I can ask questions...(i.e. what to expect from the surgery, before and after, what does this replacement look like, how does it work, what is the lifespan of the replacement). He offers to give injection to help with pain...these injections have not helped in the past. I wonder if I were a 30 year old runner, if he would speak more about recovery time, rehabilitation, lifespan of replacement

Wonderful Surgeon. Great bedside manner. He's done both my knee replacements. I couldnt be happier!

Dr. Clevenger was very kind, and highly knowledgeable about my sons orthopedic issue. He helped us create a care plan, and treated us with respect and consideration. We are glad to be under his care and feel confident with our choice. We highly recommend him! The Barrett’s

Very friendly. Not rushed when he is with me. Answers questions.

GREAT DOCTOR. KEEPS TRACK OF YOU. LISTENS. EXCEPTIONAL

Great with my 15 year old son. Thank you

Very personable and knowledgable.

A great doctor

He is excellent!!!!!!

Very professional and knowledgeable.

X-rays first !! Immediate attention!!

Very professional

Exceptional work

Outstanding provider! He walked us through the process with our 4 year old and kept us informed the entire way. We highly recommend Dr. Clevenger!

Great service, good interaction and great medical skills. My wife now wants to see him for her knee!

Absolutely amazing. Very professional and too the point. Explained in full detail and seems too be a very caring Dr. I think he’s great. 😊

Great Doctor!!!

A very friendly, knowledgeable, physician. Very patient and took the time to make sure I understood everything. I liked him very much.

Dr. Clevenger explained what my knee X-ray disclosed and my choices as I move forward. He was very professional and personal in his questions and answers. It was a pleasure to meet him.

Very quick appointment. Felt rushed. He had a great bedside manner and explained things well.

Very quick and professional

Had a great time joking with him! Very competent. Knows his stuff.

Very cordial and engaged; he answered my questions and made suggestions regarding my concerns. Very positive experience.

Dr. Clevenger was very patient and understanding as he worked with my daughter. He explained the situation to her in terms she could understand, setting her at ease as we prepare for her upcoming surgery. I appreciated how he spoke directly to her; showed her the X-rays and explained to her - not me - what was going on. My daughter greatly appreciated this and said Dr. Clevenger was the nicest doctor she has ever met!

Rude, going to another doctor who will fix what he didn't. Extremely unsatisfied customer, no bed side manner. He did a good job in surgery, but a year later my bones still not healing. In so much pain daily, he dismissed me completely. But have a new doctor who is super sweet, so all worked out!

Very professional but also friendly to make me comfortable. He explained the ex rays and his diagnoses clearly.

Answered all my questions. Ready for my surgery

took his time, answered all our questions, office staff very helpful

Pleasant demeanor, on time, good listener

He talked to me, not at me.

Dr. Clevenger is attentive to questions that you might have concerning your recovery.

He looked at the X Rays and my knee and came to the same conclusion that I did.

Best knee specialist in Oregon in my opinion. Went through ACL reconstruction on both knees, and have had nothing but great results!!

My doctor Jose Parker refered me to him and I have a lot of confidence in both Dr. Clevenger and Jose Parker.

Very caring His confidence gave me confidence

An excellent Dr. who I’ve been going to for about 8 years. It’s time for a total knee replacement and I know I am in the most capable hands. Thank you Dr. Clevenger!

Todd was friendly, knowledgeable and efficient - just what I was looking for.

Knows what he is doing and kind in the process. Have 100% confidence in Dr. Clevinger

Competent and friendly. Concise and effective in conveying his diagnosis and treatment options and plan.

great job!

Super friendly and very informative.

This Doctor went over and above for me. He made room for me when ask by his staff to see me. I travel 3 hours for my appointments. The Dr. made room for me so I didn't need to come back.

what a special Dr, this young man is, Thank you Dr,for your care,

He made me feel comfortable from the time he stepped in the room. He asked me yesterday at my pre surgery apt if I had any questions. I didn't know what to ask him because I felt like he has everything covered and I don't need to worry about anything.

kind and attentive, gives good instructions

Dr. Clevenger recently addressed a billing concern of mine, and made adjustments that were fair & just. That was appreciated, and only earns more of my trust & respect. Look forward to surgery, as my Uncle & Colleague speak highly of Mr. Clevenger work! Thanks!

shows good bedside manners. Listens with a good ear, and shows concern.

Excellent surgeon and doctor and a heck of nice guy .....!!!!!!

He is a great surgeon! Easy to talk to and is eager to help you! Also very positive!

Good communicator, and very knowledgeable and upfront about my quad tendon repair.

Love that EVERYONE is so comforting.Dr. CZlevenger is a good listener and gives out a caring spirit.

Very understanding, listened to me. Helped me to get relief from my knee pain.

Very professional... Todd is a doctor that gives his opinion to you straight. Dr. Cleverer and his team seem to understand that candy coating a diagnosis only confuses the medical treatment. I appreciate all they do for me.

Intelligent and relatable.

Great job, perfect outcome with knee.

great personality

Dr. Todd Cleveng

I truly appreciate Dr. Clevenger - He listens to me, answers my questions, and always gives me the "best advice" to help mend my issues. Janet S. McCoy >^. .^<

He is the best

Horrible bedside manner. Definitely does not listen to patients or care about their experience. Clevenger does not consider the individual patient. If you aren't better in his time frame, too bad!

Very kid friendly! Loved our visit.

Caring, casual, and compassionate.

Both ACL’s reconstructed by Dr. Clevenger, and I just can’t say enough good things about him! If you’re looking for the penultimate knee doc, he’s your guy!! 110%

Great doctor ....

He was very kind and answered all my questions.

Injections were quick and easy. Thanks for the compression bandages!

Very thorough

It’s all about powder eights this winter, right?!?

Professional and personable. Explained options and gave recommendations. Thank you

He was very thorough about my knee different options and explained what this shot does when it enters my knee

Dr. Clevenger is a great doctor

Dr. Clevenger exceeded my expections. He was very professional and personable, spoke at my level, and answered my questions.

I am glad that I found this very professional and er nest young doctor who has the energy to keep abreast of the changes in his specialties and has a concern for his patients. Having a family of his own is reflected in his care for us. Bravo doctor.

Dr. Clevenger has helped me with my kneecap issues. He is very professional and easy to talk to...So. Oregon is lucky to have him!

Excellent bed side manor. A very skilled surgeon who makes his patient feel as comfortable as possible. I can not praise Dr.Clevenger enough

Dr. Clevenger replaced both my hips over the last two years. He is the only doctor I would want to do this. Recovery was excellent, followed his instructions and I am pain free for the first time in years.

Dr. Clevenger is the best! He is kind, respectful, informative, and he is a good listener. I look forward to dealing with him with my orthopedic needs. Janet S. McCoy >^. .^<

Professional, knowledgeable and listened.

Friendly, knowledgeable, helpful

Dr. Clevenger listens and is patient. His knowledge, experience and compassion expands my confidence in his recommendations.

Friendly, Reassuring and professional, explained my injury and what I could expect in the healing process. He listened to my concerns and reassured me and my family.

Have had only one meeting so far with Dr Clevenger to consult on knee surgey. But I am impressed with manner and knowledge. He had all the right answers to my questions

Very informative and professional! Did a excellent job on my surgery. (ACL, and meniscus repair)

Dr. Clevenger was a pleasure to be seen by. He is very down to earth, understands what you may be going through and explains exactly what is going on and why he recommends the treatment he is prescribing. I look forward to surgery by him.

This is my second surgery with doctor Clevenger. He did great job with my hip replacement. Hoping for equal success with knee

He was very rushed did not answer my questions. Very nice Dr. and staff. Just wish he would of listened.

Even though I was not happy with the answers he gave me, he did recommend another procedure to see if we can get me thru the worst of the agonizing pain I am having on my left knee, so we can do what is necessary to fix this issue.

No compassion. Explain to him that my arm still hurts . basically got told it's going to and to go back to work when I can barely use my arm. I know it's light duty but still can't use right arm without severe pain. Sent to pt for rotator cuff tear.

my knee feels like new. You don't realize how much you've become used to the pain until it not there anymore! Thank you Dr Clevenger.

My knee is so good now, and a very successful surgery..Thanks

Super efficient and knowledgeable. I came 2400 miles and Dr. Clevenger is terrific . Southern Oregon Orthopedics has its act together. X-rays were taken before my designated appointment time and ready for the doctor.

This is my second surgery with Dr. Clevenger for two separate ACL repairs. Both experiences have been smooth and with excellent results. A true professional that takes the time to be sure you are well informed, and at ease before and after surgery

Very efficient and thorough.

Great exam and eval.

Silly to ask for this after a mere PRE-OP, 5 minute meeting. I go to him because I believe him to be excellent, based on past surery experience with him.

Very knowledgeable, caring and professional.

Always professional, listens well, friendly, and concerned.

I felt as if I was just another number. It came in examined me very quickly Diagnosed Jerry with

Not the greatest bedside manner. Better explanations.

I do not want me to rate since i'm still upset about my visit. My appt was at 1:20pm and didnt get in until 3;10. If i was over an hour late for my appt you wouldn't see me.

good over all, however would have like a bit more detail explanation of options.

Dr Clevenger has replaced both of my knees. I have been very pleased with both of the surgerys. He is pleasant and easy to talk to. My only complaint is that he is always in a hurry.

BUSY office

very nice, very polite. really liked my experience seeing him

Left with the reason that I came for resolved No plan to resolve it

Non caring and very poor bedside manner. My dogs veterinarian is more compassionate

Excellent

Had my first appointment with Dr Clevenger,my former doctor(Steve Chamberlain) retired last fall. Todd asked questions,listened to what I had to say, and explained the course of treatment. Very personable. I'm pleased to have him as my doctor.

He handled everything very professional and confident. Very thank for for Dr. Clevenger. Thank you Doctor!

Professional with a great bedside manner yet straight to the point highly recommended .

Super happy with his work and the continue appointments/info/help afterwards. Thank you

Dr. Clevenger was easy to talk to and outlined my options letting me decided which treatment I felt fit my needs. I feel confident that my knee will be appropriately treated.

I love Dr Clevenger. I just had a total right hip replacement done by him. He is an amazing surgeon.

Attentive, knowledgeable & friendly. An excellent surgeon.

Dr Clevenger did a great job on my Knee!

Truly disappointing. Dr Clevenger was very rushed, did not appear to be listening, and uttered things as if he was reciting lines - just going through the motions. There was a definite lack of respect and individual care. Incredibly average.

He did a pkr on 12/18/18. 15wks after surgery my knee hurts worse than did prior. Sharp pains from the site. Swells up after being on it for about 1hr. I wish I didn’t do it. I have told him all this, but it seems to fall on deaf ears.

He remembers me That means alot to me. He does care and sacrifices his time

I went to Dr. Clevenger for a partial knee replacement. I am very happy with the outcome.

Very professional and knowledgeable on sports injury.

Professional experience, glad to see xray of knee bones and explanation of what it shows.

Nice guy, personable, straight shooter about non-surgical options.

Todd is outstanding. He and his staff are world class and gave direct, clear and personal services that made me feel understood and appreciated. My surgery and aftercare has been nothing but a great success.

quick and to the point. Listens too

Knowledgeable, kind, courteous, and excellent surgical skills.

knowledgeable and explained the problem and options to deal with it. Would go back to this Dr. if I have need.

The Best!

He needs to take a couple of minutes to make the patient feel like he is really listening to their concerns. This surgery affects the rest of our lives. It is important to listen to everything the patients says, no matter how trivial the matter may s

It was good to see dr. Clevenger again and I was always he put those shots in my knees with no pain. I am grateful.

friendly and gave a lot of information

I am seeing him for a shoulder injury and he and his staff have provided excellent care.

Great first meeting. Very knowledgeable about my situation and answered all my questions and concerns.

Dr. Clevenger gave me my life back!

I really enjoyed my first visit with Dr. Clevenger. He explained my injuries and allowed me to ask questions. He walked me through the procedure and helped me make the best decision. Dr. Clevenger is a delightful person.

Nice man but only met him once. He answered my questions and I did not feel rushed.

Friendly but very rushed. I would like to the procedure explained and have more time to ask questions. Fantastic surgeon. This will be my second knee replacement and I am confident that it will turn out as great as the first one.

Very knowledgeable, & puts your mind at ease regarding your procedure.

on time getting in,analysis on the money. The cortisone shot worked wonders on my arthritic knee.

He was very friendly engaged and had good advice. Thank you.

Dr. Clevenget is very patient and I am wry happy that he will be doing my surgery.

Thought he could have explained procedure for knee replacement instead of just saying I needed it. More interaction would have been appreciated.

Very productive visit!

Dr. Clevenger has very good post opp manor. I have a little phobia to surgery and he makes me feel ok about it.

Straight forward, respectful and showed a sense of caring. Every appointment was with Dr. Clevenger and not an assistant. Would I recommend him to others? Yes!

Friendly but did not spend much time with patient listening to what was going on with their injury

He’s terrific!

He made me feel very comfortable, & he is very confident which is reassuring,

Explained everything in easy to understand language.

learn to answer questions, problems with more than superficial responses...very unsatisfactory

I enjoy seeing Dr Clevenger even though it’s because I’m in pain.

The shot he gave me in my knee only slightly affected my knee it still hurts me.

I felt that he was a little brief with me at my first visit. I had arthroscopic surgery. He never came in after the surgery to give me any kind of a report. My first follow up was with a PA. That person did not have the doctor's report to give.

Very personable, caring Physician with a good personality.

Really nice person and very competent. He just did my second TKR and I feel great.

He is the best! He answers all of my questions. He has good bedside manner. He & his staff are kind, respectful, & helpful. No complaints!!!

One of the best orthopedic surgeons! Wouldnt want any other Doctor!

A little more information about what to expect after the surgery would have been helpful. The post operative meeting was very informative. Dr. Clevenger did a great job "cleaning up" my meniscus. Thank you

outstanding surpeon

I am very satisfied with Dr. Clevenger. He is very easy to talk to and takes his time answering the questions and concerns.

Awesome surgeon and dr..

I received excellent care from this doctor. Very professional. Inspired my confidence.

Great bedside manner! Something rarely seen in Orthopedists.

An awesome dr. Takes his time with you .very laid back .you feel comfortable with him.

Amazing care and follow up!

Thank you so very much!Merry Christmas

Dr. Clevenger was excellent!! He listened to me. He did a thorough exam and diagnoses. Would highly recommend Dr. Clevenger.

Very nice doctor. He explained my MRI to us. I really liked him.

Didn't spend more than a few minutes in the room. Didn't ask much about MY symptoms. Cursory exam, because everyone is the exact same. Injury not healed from 4 months ago, got another shot because cortisone is the magic healer.

Love Dr. Clevenger, he is the best!

Very polite and explains what is going on in a calm and effective manner.

Very thorough, easy to talk to, answers question, lets you ask questions, and is very confident.

Best of the best!!!!

Very professional and down to earth. Truly caring and did an exceptional job.

Dr. Clevenger was extremely attentive and professional. He made us feel at ease. This was my husband’s first visit with Dr. Clevenger and we were completely impressed and happy. Thank you!

Personable doc. My experience was less than satisfying. The building is not user-friendly for people with mobility issues, especially considering it serves a population of people likely with mobility issues!

I felt comfortable and listened to.

I appreciate

well organized, knows his stuff

Best you can get !!!

Dr Clevenger is a fantastic compassionate physician!

Better results than I had expected.

He was thorough with explanations before and after surgery. Listened to my questions and feedback. You have an excellent staff also

Dr Clevenger was terrific!!!!

He took the time to explain the path of my treatment and where that decision came from,

Thankyou for your kindness & expertise. Also thankyou to your staff for being considerate & compassionate. S Ducharme

He is the best! Always up beat and makes sure to ask a lot of questions to determine the problem and makes sure that you understand what is wrong and what to do moving forward.

What a blessing that the Rogue Valley has an Orthopedic Surgeon like Dr Clevenger. Professional, Caring, Patient , Excellent Surgeon!!!

Doctor Clevenger was consistently attentive and personable, yet straight forward in telling it like it is. Excellent surgical skills and likewise, excellent follow up care. I rank him the finest surgeon I have ever had.

Dr clevinger is the best dr I have had. Did both knees and about to do hip replacement. Not only is he good at what he does, is his bedside manner is the tops. And he's good looking too. Also takes my harassment.

I came in for my "follow up" appointment and when I asked if he had looked over notes from my PT, he said no. This frustrated me because it was a follow up appointment and PT was something he recommended me to do! He is very nice and does seem to care

He made me feel like I am good hands. Very comfortable.

Excellent surgeon had a great outcome from a very serious injury.

Kind and respectful!

answered all my questions

Dr Clevenger is always very kind and attentive. He listens to my concerns and addresses them

The best.

I am very pleased with my knee replacement. All went better than expected and after one year it is indeed like having my good old knee back.

I came from out of state because Dr Clevenger would see me when no one in Boise would. He was caring and reassuring.

Prompt, Answered my questions, gave me options.

The very best , so much compassion. Thank you.

He has a great bedside manner and answers all questions so you understand them.

gave me options to think about after explaining his findings